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Post by jay1818273645 on Sept 10, 2017 3:07:35 GMT
CyroWind wrote: What I hear you saying, CyroWind, is that you don't like your base, and you're bored. Why not just ask the staff to roll back your base and clear your inventory -- a fresh start for you, without imposing your wish on everyone else? Just a thought. Cheers. Before the thread was made we were talking about it online. The thread isnt made to impose onto someone just to see if everyone wants a change. Please correct me if i am wrong.
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Post by SnuRRe0 on Sept 10, 2017 9:01:43 GMT
I'm not for this at all, I like my base and I like all the builds that are everywhere. It was a bit hard in the beginning when "everyone else" had huge fancy builds and god armor/weapond, but I like how the server is full of builds and stuff everywhere. It shows the whole historie of the server, and there is plenty of space left for new players to build on without being close to others. I'm also still far from finished with this world, I dont think I ever will be. I build stuff all the time and are having fun
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Post by cyrowind on Sept 10, 2017 11:34:16 GMT
Right now what I'm seeing is that most people don't want a reset. Half of those people have unfinished builds, half of them love the world. A lot of people are suggesting a portal to a new world. I'm going to present a few situations. 1: If there was a reset, everyone would have a few months in advance to complete everything, and there would be a world download with something to get you to all the bases. 2: If there was no reset, but a portal leading to an open world, it would just be fresh space, and the players who want a reset wouldn't feel different, unless when you go through the portal there's a total wipe of all your things (except ranks possibly.) 3: We keep the server as it is and a bunch of bored people leave, while new players will join, half will stay, half will leave. The people aren't going on strike that leave, they're just bored.
Remember, all these situations are hypothetical and all results are not exact, but I'd like to give an idea of what I'd think would happen. I wouldn't mind a portal, but if nothing happened at all, I'd probably quit.
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Post by FireSafetyDoggo on Sept 10, 2017 15:38:45 GMT
I will type more here later but there is a stipulation we did on an old server I worked on in the past where were we were allowed to have one base/house moved from the old world into the new world. We also had a setup where there was still an old world and then there was a new world that reset every update. The new world was used as a resource world and if you always wanted to start fresh every major update there you go. Then those who like the current old world can stay there and go to the new world to get resources. Those are the 2 best options imo
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Post by cyrowind on Sept 10, 2017 22:33:53 GMT
I will type more here later but there is a stipulation we did on an old server I worked on in the past where were we were allowed to have one base/house moved from the old world into the new world. We also had a setup where there was still an old world and then there was a new world that reset every update. The new world was used as a resource world and if you always wanted to start fresh every major update there you go. Then those who like the current old world can stay there and go to the new world to get resources. Those are the 2 best options imo Not a bad idea, but I just kind of want everything wiped. We'd still get the luxuries of the old world if we set up a resource world. Resources aren't my issue. Maybe it's because I joined in what I felt was the middle of everything, but I'd like a fresh start. Maybe I've watched too much hermitcraft, that could be an issue. But I'm just here to let my public opinion be known, so please take no offense in anything I say that you may not like, just give me your opinion and your reasons to justify it.
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Post by FireSafetyDoggo on Sept 10, 2017 22:59:02 GMT
Well no the benefits of the old world and new world is there is that happy median where the people who don't want the reset can keep working and using the old world where as if you don't want to have something permanent you can live and work in the new world knowing it will be reset every major update.
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Post by cyrowind on Sept 10, 2017 23:09:38 GMT
The thing is, like I said earlier, I watch too much hermitcraft. The way they do it, they play until everyone is finished, then reset and make a world download. I realize that with a server like that, people aren't coming and going, and at one point everyone reaches that point, while with simplex, new players join every day and aren't nearly close enough to being done as they want, and most people would quit if there was a reset. I remember joining and there was talk about a reset, and I was thinking I'd never play again if it happened. I don't know if it's just a me thing, but I feel like the best results would come from a full reset.
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Post by Choo_Imperium on Sept 10, 2017 23:58:30 GMT
We could just make a 2ed simplex server
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Post by AbsolutInfinity on Sept 11, 2017 1:00:28 GMT
I barely voice my opinions on matters such as these because I believed that people couldn't get bored playing MineCraft. Endless space to build, vast idea's and such to try out. Right now I'm on the verge of quitting Simplex. The harsh truth is, it got boring. I mean I have the opportunity and the resources to build whatever I want, but it just boils down to the same thing, it gets stale after a while. My point is, yes, there are some Veteran players on here that would hate to lose their builds that took them forever to build. I am one of them, but the fact of the matter is that this server is getting cluttered. We have player's that haven't logged on in more than half a year and their builds are everywhere. I guess what I'm trying to say is that I'd say no to a full server wipe, but yes to having a brand new server under the name of Simplex. That way the players that want to start fresh, have the chance to, and the players that want to stay on the old map, with their hard work, have the same chance. Seeing as Simplex is now run on a dedicated server, it shouldn't be that hard to setup a new server, and transfer the player files over as far as ranks go. Having a fresh start for me would breathe new life into the server and like most people said, it would probably bring back some of the old players that left due to boredom. I think Meehan should take an official vote on this because it has been discussed multiple times both in-game and out.
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Post by FireSafetyDoggo on Sept 11, 2017 3:18:37 GMT
Here is the issue you are not thinking about here Matt... A new server means larger work load on staff. We have enough to work on one server not manage 2. We have not had a huge need on getting new staff so we rarely make people new staff. That being said I wouldn't mind a reset maybe a reset with as I stated before you are allowed to take one build with you. Another option was also that you could transfer only 1 double chest with you pack what ever you want on it and be ready to move. Idk though. We would still want the shopping district to be moved aswell I'm sure.
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Post by Choo_Imperium on Sept 11, 2017 5:59:10 GMT
Yes but for some people with large and extensive builds a reset would make them feel bad about all that they have done and they might just leave totally.
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Post by SnuRRe0 on Sept 11, 2017 7:07:42 GMT
Regarding moving some stuff to a new server, included shopping districts, that would not work for me at all. I sell mostly stuff I've worked hard to get automated farms for, moving just my shop would be useless for me. But as I already said, I'm not for a reset at all.
As for new players not staying because of the differences between all the players. New players join every day, it would be the same differences between them and others after a short while anyway. If new players doesn't like the fact that other players has played a lot and worked hard to get all the stuff and builds they have, then I'd say they have joined the wrong server. When you join a well established server in a survival world, that is just how it is.
As for old players leaving, you can actually start fresh somewhere else on the server. Plenty of space left for that. I see no(or little) differeces between doing that and move to a new server, if you can bring a chest of your best stuff. In both cases you have your good gear and tools and resources with you, but not your builds.
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Post by FireSafetyDoggo on Sept 11, 2017 15:52:36 GMT
Alright one issue is finding space to build. Maybe us staff can figure out a system for removing old un-used builds that way there are more areas to build around spawn.
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Post by ChewFester on Sept 11, 2017 22:17:38 GMT
For me if I could continue at rank and blocks earned I would consider it since I can always rebuild, but if a new world was to be created nothing would change including all the raiding of villages and the like. When people just this weekend bragging about how many temples they had raided nothing will change New or Old Maps.
How about letting the people that have donated and contributed to the server be the first to decide as they have a vested interest in the server.
I am on the fence leaning to the no though.
Chewy
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Post by AbsolutInfinity on Sept 12, 2017 0:13:12 GMT
Yes Ken, that is one thing that I overlooked. Maybe it is time to look into bringing in more staff members though? You don't have to make them all mods right off the bat. Just keep with the same system now and have a mod or two with the ability to jump between the two servers. I mean, with a new server, there should be less problems right? As far as shops being raided.
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