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Post by Admin on Jun 27, 2020 2:11:49 GMT
Hey guys,If you have not already read it, I suggest you do so. In summary, there is no point continuing with the previous poll. I made a mistake, but one that can be corrected right now. It wasn't all for naught though because I did learn something from it and also talking to the community. Whatever the final result would have been, may not have truly reflected the community's nuanced opinion however, which is what I aim to fix now. I'm going to update the poll options to hopefully give more representation to differing opinions. I'll try to give a full rundown of each option whilst being as impartial as I can. In the end, you have to decide for yourself if my reasons are correct or not. Nether Reset:The Nether will reset. All claims/builds in the nether will be deleted. No compensations will be made.
I'd like you to see our latest storage space stats. Free disk space: 20 GB Total disk space: 439 GB
Usage: Overworld: 224 GB Nether: 19 GB End: 96 GB Logblock: 29 GB Splunk: 19 GB
This option is technically very doable IMO. The overworld's expansion has reached a plateau in the last couple months, and with a reset of both The End and Nether we'll have a lot of room left. It may require more frequent resets of the End, but it is doable. Nevertheless, If you're voting for this option, it may mean you're getting the last bit of enjoyment as you possibly can from the overworld before it's gone. A reset some point down the road seems inevitable now. The recent poll was deadly close, yet there are not any new features in the overworld being added. I personally don't see it surviving in the event of a future update that contains new overworld features which we can not accommodate for. This is not necessarily a bad way to vote and I completely understand if you want to vote this way. Keeping the overworld alive until we no longer possibly can might be worth it. We'll also be able to have an even longer run next time if we reset on an overworld update instead of needing to expand the border on a newly reset world. Just be aware of what lies ahead. Soft Reset: All worlds will be reset. Ranks/donations/votes will be kept. Inventory/Enderchest will be saved. Shopping District and Community Farm will be transferred. Individual player builds/projects will NOT be transferred. Community-appreciated builds will be transferred.
This is essentially a map reset, taking with us everything we possibly can without it being too much work on the admins. It is not feasible for us to transfer individual player builds as that would take too long and it would inevitably end up being unfair to someone who was not present at the time. A discussion will need to take place on whether players taking whatever they can carry with them can be abused in some way economically or otherwise, and if anything can be done to prevent that. I believe the jury is still out on that front, so I encourage civil and respectful discussion so we can better understand each other.
Full Reset: All worlds will be reset. Ranks/donations/votes will be kept. Community-appreciated builds will be transferred. Between one to a couple items can be transferred per player of their choice.
A chance to start over completely fresh, but with the support and help of a community working together is not something to sniff at. Aside from the transfer of a couple sentimental items of the player's choice and a few monuments that show homage to the past, it will be an exciting beginning with infinite possibilities.
As was the case before, if the poll does not reach a super majority (>50% of votes on one option), we will hold another vote between the two most popular options. This way the people who vote for the 3rd most popular option have a chance to change their vote. If any attempt is made to illegitimately manipulate the poll, we will ban the user from the server, discord and forums.I encourage the community to continue the discussion below in a respectful manner.
Poll closes 4th July 12:00pm AEST (Convert to your own timezone). Results will be released then.
This thread may be subject to changes.
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Post by racheld427 on Jun 27, 2020 2:20:08 GMT
Question: if there was a soft reset would maparts be saved in that or nah
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Post by julici0us on Jun 27, 2020 2:21:16 GMT
Is it inventory or e-chest or both? Just curious but i guess it's subject to change until it's chosen as way to go.
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Post by kjortmobile on Jun 27, 2020 2:24:12 GMT
Thank you for expanding more and building upon our options from previous discussions! That being said, I still vote for just the nether reset for this update. As I and some others stated in the previous thread, I'd much rather wait for an overworld-focused update (e.g. new biomes or other generated structures) to reset the whole world on. 1.16 is mainly a nether update, so to me it makes the most amount of sense to only update the nether this time around. I would be disappointed if we reset the overworld in 1.16, only for some really cool new features to potentially be added in 1.17 that we wouldn't be able to totally enjoy (without expanding the world border).
To me, resetting the whole world for 1.16 to gain newer features isn't worth losing years worth of player's items and builds. While it is still possible to do so, I would rather continue playing on the existing overworld map until at least the next major update. However, if a majority of players want a total world reset, I'd choose a soft reset where players can carry over their inventories and significant builds such as the shopping district and the community farm because I feel like that would be a solid compromise between those who do and those who do not want a total reset at this time. But, it's just a game of pixels so I look forward to playing on simplex however this all shakes out <3
edit: I'd love to see duck's collection considered as a "community-appreciated" build!
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Post by meeppeice on Jun 27, 2020 2:34:57 GMT
if we did a full reset would players be able to keep their claim blocks? also would mobs be considered sentimental items?
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Post by meeppeice on Jun 27, 2020 2:36:57 GMT
Thank you for expanding more and building upon our options from previous discussions! That being said, I still vote for just the nether reset for this update. As I and some others stated in the previous thread, I'd much rather wait for an overworld-focused update (e.g. new biomes or other generated structures) to reset the whole world on. 1.16 is mainly a nether update, so to me it makes the most amount of sense to only update the nether this time around. I would be disappointed if we reset the overworld in 1.16, only for some really cool new features to potentially be added in 1.17 that we wouldn't be able to totally enjoy (without expanding the world border). To me, resetting the whole world for 1.16 to gain newer features isn't worth losing years worth of player's items and builds. While it is still possible to do so, I would rather continue playing on the existing overworld map until at least the next major update. However, if a majority of players want a total world reset, I'd choose a soft reset where players can carry over their inventories and significant builds such as the shopping district and the community farm because I feel like that would be a solid compromise between those who do and those who do not want a total reset at this time. But, it's just a game of pixels so I look forward to playing on simplex however this all shakes out <3 edit: I'd love to see duck's collection considered as a "community-appreciated" build! whats the point in resetting the nether now if we do a full reset when the next update is released? its already confirmed that 1.17 is an overworld update
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Post by Numpostrophe on Jun 27, 2020 2:37:16 GMT
Thanks for the clarifications meehan. Sent this to my friends.
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Post by kjortmobile on Jun 27, 2020 2:48:51 GMT
Thank you for expanding more and building upon our options from previous discussions! That being said, I still vote for just the nether reset for this update. As I and some others stated in the previous thread, I'd much rather wait for an overworld-focused update (e.g. new biomes or other generated structures) to reset the whole world on. 1.16 is mainly a nether update, so to me it makes the most amount of sense to only update the nether this time around. I would be disappointed if we reset the overworld in 1.16, only for some really cool new features to potentially be added in 1.17 that we wouldn't be able to totally enjoy (without expanding the world border). To me, resetting the whole world for 1.16 to gain newer features isn't worth losing years worth of player's items and builds. While it is still possible to do so, I would rather continue playing on the existing overworld map until at least the next major update. However, if a majority of players want a total world reset, I'd choose a soft reset where players can carry over their inventories and significant builds such as the shopping district and the community farm because I feel like that would be a solid compromise between those who do and those who do not want a total reset at this time. But, it's just a game of pixels so I look forward to playing on simplex however this all shakes out <3 edit: I'd love to see duck's collection considered as a "community-appreciated" build! whats the point in resetting the nether now if we do a full reset when the next update is released? its already confirmed that 1.17 is an overworld update That's a good point merp that I definitely overlooked, forgot that resetting the overworld would reset the nether too hah oops. Still, I guess where I'm coming from is that people don't typically build massive structures or set up bases in the nether, so there isn't as much to lose when the nether gets reset. However, with the changes in 1.16 that might change and people may spend more time in the nether. Looking at time between major updates, it might be almost a year until 1.17 comes out from now without accounting for the time it would take the server to update as well. That gives players lots of time to enjoy our current overworld and the new nether features. There's definitely pros and cons to each option for how things move forward and I'll be happy with any of the options meehan's laid out for us.
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Post by meeppeice on Jun 27, 2020 2:56:39 GMT
whats the point in resetting the nether now if we do a full reset when the next update is released? its already confirmed that 1.17 is an overworld update That's a good point merp that I definitely overlooked, forgot that resetting the overworld would reset the nether too hah oops. Still, I guess where I'm coming from is that people don't typically build massive structures or set up bases in the nether, so there isn't as much to lose when the nether gets reset. However, with the changes in 1.16 that might change and people may spend more time in the nether. Looking at time between major updates, it might be almost a year until 1.17 comes out from now without accounting for the time it would take the server to update as well. That gives players lots of time to enjoy our current overworld and the new nether features. There's definitely pros and cons to each option for how things move forward and I'll be happy with any of the options meehan's laid out for us. I see where you're coming from but personally, I don't think a year would be long enough for someone to build a larger base in the nether. Building in the nether would be hard because you would need to clear areas and new blocks that aren't insta mined like netherrack is. I have already spent a year on my overworld base and its not even 50% done lol imagine if it was in the nether
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Post by diwanshu on Jun 27, 2020 4:34:34 GMT
Full reset all the way can't keep playing knowing a reset is approaching soon either way again and just matter of few months of making new builds it gonna be wiped.
Plus having any builds whatsoever be transferred will give advantage to one person with whomever it is concerned with in my opinion also it just defeats the purpose of reset, anything at all can be built again with community help like it was done before.
Not against transferring items if everyone wants that but just think about having all the items one need on first day of reset vs everyone is gathering again no matter what which will end up much better for the future. (It's gonna be pain to see wipe of diamonds for example which will take atleast few years to hoard that amount but it can be done if needed, plus if carrying is allowed it gonna again arrise debate of why restrict old member work towards a new member limit like only allowing stack of diamond blocks to be transferred per person whatsoever).
Better to keep things plain and simple and lets build Simplex 2.0 from scratch in my opinion.
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Post by Nurikoh on Jun 27, 2020 4:58:51 GMT
Question. Do I keep my stuff in the shopping district or nah?
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Post by Choo_Imperium on Jun 27, 2020 5:11:42 GMT
Question. Do I keep my stuff in the shopping district or nah? The shopping district has a plan in place for all of these options. An announcement will be made on the SD discord ( discord.gg/X5SqF4N ) once a final decision is made for the server.
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Post by zeroh on Jun 27, 2020 6:50:06 GMT
if there is a full reset i can finally mine without 1098939428479 tunnels in the way
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Post by MarkE13 on Jun 27, 2020 7:35:30 GMT
i voted soft reset because we have 20gb of free space now and resetting the end and nether will give us 135 gb. with increased exploring of the nether for ancient debris and new stuff and people exploring the end again for elytra those world sizes may push us past that point before 1.17 possibly causing small resets again. we dont know when 1.17 is coming and i think its best to start working on a new world now which we can expand upon again once 1.17 comes rather than squeezing every last drop out of this one.
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Post by Maunolith on Jun 27, 2020 8:23:11 GMT
Well never thought the previous poll would be 50/50.
I voted still for a full reset. The thought about taking all ur stuff with u in shulkers defeats the purpose of a reset. With a soft reset u get simplex 1.5. Important stuff pasted around the new map. Nah not such a fan of that.
It would be good to see stuff being rebuild and improved. Not saying u need to exactly rebuild your own stuff. It can give new insights and u can create a whole new base that is very diffrent then the current one. What is starting on a new map with god tools and god gear? Then u don't need to grind and most people will head straight to the nether for ancient debris and get those netherrite tools. I bet people will do that and then trying to sell it to become even richer then they allready are.
So just reset the whole map fully so we can expierence what the new nether feels like when you are not even ready for the end game. Would love to see how people are going to approach that.
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