Regulate or Ban Gambling

You think kids are not as mentally mature enough, when I just found out my child knows what sex is the other day. The kids today are a lot smarter then we think they are/then they show. They can do stupid shit and we assume they are 'stupid' so to say but they are not innocent little angles as they let on. Lol

The point Im making here Veil is that you measure with two standards. On one hand you don't allow sexual content due to it's mature nature and claim it does not belong in a public chat in a video game, regardless of whether it's inappropriate or not, on the other hand, gambling which is just as much mature content and actually possibly damaging is allowed? Why draw the line at one point, but not at the other. By allowing gambling you're basically taking a step down the spiral of moral decay in my opinion. 

You claim there is no issue  so far with spam, sure it might not be one person actually spamming chat (although some people are borderline) but if a new player were to enter at some points in time this evening for example all they would see is chat about gambling, people advertising their casino or bickering about it. Not exactly something I would want to see in a so called "family friendly" server.

Furthermore you might not perceive it as a problem, however it can easily be argued that simulated gambling can lead to differences in the way gambling is perceived, making it more normal, acceptable and relatively harmless. I'm not the only one who thinks this, as several local and national governments (Australian government for example) have raised concerns about this and are attempting to regulate this.

I think if it's just a bit of fun why not? And I think there's a difference with rl money and in-game money. And on top of that there's a massive difference with how the money is gambled in real life and how it's gambled on the server. I'll admit I haven't looked at it myself but how complex can it be? It's not like it's poker, blackjack, roulette or whatever other games there are, it's most likely a little machine where you insert a diamond and maybe something pops out the other end. If the stakes aren't high, I don't see the problem, however if the stakes ARE high then that's a big no from me. But, when you look at worst case scenario here, what is it? Someone loses a few diamonds, they get pissed off and never play again. I don't think anyone here is capable of getting addicted to a little gambling machine. because the stakes really aren't that high, and also it can get boring fast. Also the consequences for gambling in real life are far far greater, food,shelter,electricity,insurance blah blah blah. In-game it's very expendable, if you lose it, you can easily gain it back (again stakes are not high). And regarding what age group this server is categorized as, I think I would categorize it as 12+ due to swearing being allowed.

Java you said the effort you put in to get the diamonds is real, yes, it is. And that "effort" can easily be lost multiple other ways i.e death. Which is way worse depending on what you have in your inventory.

If my casino is a problem because of kids not understanding casino's and gambling i could put more rules up and info up the front of my casibo to what gambling is and means and what you should be aware of while gambling.

Would this making gambling 'safer' sytze??

And sometimes you have to let them be stupid otherwise they won't learn anything. Potentially anything can be dangerous, doesn't mean we should protect and control everything they do. Everyone can agree with that, it's just people draw the line in different ways.

I hope I don't see an 'Universal Simplex' and an 'Orthodox Simplex' schism anytime soon.

The biggest difference between simulated and real gambling is how each type gets people to see the value of the 'money' that they're spending.

Poker games and slots sims use in-game currency and I think that's the reason people play them: because there isn't really much of a risk.

People could get addicted to gambling in game but there really isn't any real consequence towards you. Real gambling poses risks far greater and people who should be old enough to legally commit in such acts should know the value of money. I think that's what kitty was saying. There's a need to learn the meaning of value and the work required for earning. I don't think straight up loss is the way, but instead learning the hardship of obtaining it.

Heck, you could get addicted to basically anything. Playing video games being one that is the favourite of the oh so strict parent, with arguably the same caliber of negative effects as gambling with the trade off of health instead of money.

I don't think you'd go advocating that playing video games is bad?

Putting the kids gambling to one side. I think the simple issue of scams is far more important. The types of 'casinos' set up by the newer players usually consist of a hopper leader into a chest where you drop your 'bets', and a dispenser with iron (equals win) and coal (equals a loss). This is so easy to just change to the owners preference, if they want they can take all the iron out and leave coal. And yes, mods can check, but with the growing amount how is anyone meant to know whether they have been scammed or just unlucky? Mods surely dont want to be checking the 'casino' everytime someone bets right?