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Post by Admin on Apr 9, 2018 3:34:38 GMT
Pros:
- Dragon egg
- Unraided Cities
Cons:
- End farms gone
- Veil's designer spawn gone
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Post by Choo_Imperium on Apr 9, 2018 4:52:37 GMT
No. Mainly because I think People would scramble for the egg and other players might get salty at that player for having it. Also I like veils main eng island and the spleef arena.
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Post by cptchlorox on Apr 9, 2018 5:15:25 GMT
Worst case scenario:
Dragon is fought and then there's fighting over who gets the egg
No end farms making xp harder to get
Everyone wants to raid the end, meaning if someone were to make a new end farm, it wouldn't even be effective.
It could be worth it to lower prices and increase the supply of elytras, shulker boxes, and other end city loot. It would also give players something to do.
Even though I've voted no on the poll, I really don't care either way. But if the end resets, I think we should have at least a weeks notice.
Inevitably, we'll be back where we started. But this time, if there's a reset, let's remove /warp end to actually encourage people to find the end.
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Post by Choo_Imperium on Apr 9, 2018 5:49:56 GMT
Make them find strong holds. I know I have
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Post by xxaimeexx on Apr 9, 2018 7:12:04 GMT
Not sure what all the fuss is about not being able to find Elytras and shulker boxes. Within 1 week I gained 11 Elytras and only spending 2 stacks of diamonds. People are just getting lazy and not realising this is a SIMPLE Minecraft server. If you start talking to some of the higher ranked players you will soon realise some of them have 50+ shulker boxes just sitting around that they are willing to give away or sell. I do agree with getting rid of the xp farm as this does take away from the whole SIMPLE Minecraft theme and is just abused.  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2018 8:52:50 GMT
Hur hur let me complain about not being able to just spend 20 minutes to get an elytra 2k out in the end even though there's still so many unraided end cities left. How about we get mansions sorted instead? You know, since those are actually COMPLETELY GONE and there are no cons attached to resetting those, only pros.
Aside from giving another person a chance to get a dragon egg and a temporary little while of noobs being able to find unraided end cities with barely any effort there is no benefit to this. I've recently proven that people's complaints about the end being too looted out are complete bullshit (see and read the description). As far as I can tell it's some stupid mob mentality of complain because others complain, even though no effort has been put into finding out if those complaints are actually valid. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it's easy to find an unraided end city starting from 0 0 on foot, but an end reset is only going to 'solve' that pretty temporarily. Give it a few months and it's the same thing it was before.
Also, the pvp and spleef arenas are located in the end as well, and would be gone if it resets unless you back those up and place them back in, but in that case there is no point in even resetting the main island with enderman farms surrounding it either to be honest.
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Post by cyrowind on Apr 9, 2018 11:35:51 GMT
Hur hur let me complain about not being able to just spend 20 minutes to get an elytra 2k out in the end even though there's still so many unraided end cities left. How about we get mansions sorted instead? You know, since those are actually COMPLETELY GONE and there are no cons attached to resetting those, only pros. Aside from giving another person a chance to get a dragon egg and a temporary little while of noobs being able to find unraided end cities with barely any effort there is no benefit to this. I've recently proven that people's complaints about the end being too looted out are complete bullshit (see and read the description). As far as I can tell it's some stupid mob mentality of complain because others complain, even though no effort has been put into finding out if those complaints are actually valid. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it's easy to find an unraided end city starting from 0 0 on foot, but an end reset is only going to 'solve' that pretty temporarily. Give it a few months and it's the same thing it was before. Also, the pvp and spleef arenas are located in the end as well, and would be gone if it resets unless you back those up and place them back in, but in that case there is no point in even resetting the main island with enderman farms surrounding it either to be honest. This is a classic Veil solution. He sounded angry while writing it. I completely agree. |
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Post by toasterD00M on Apr 9, 2018 14:18:45 GMT
These are all valid points, although you are forgetting how some of us don't have stacks upon stacks of diamonds to spend. Heck, in the past week I've only gotten about 10 gems total. Another thing, I flew in the end for 30,000 blocks, and to no avail. Nothing came out of it, except for like 3 shulker boxes, not worth it for 4+ hours of searching
And before you all call me a noob, check my rank: I know what I'm talking about
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Post by rulingshadows on Apr 9, 2018 18:42:50 GMT
solution
go mining with a fortune pick
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Post by jendestroy on Apr 9, 2018 20:02:38 GMT
These are all valid points, although you are forgetting how some of us don't have stacks upon stacks of diamonds to spend. Heck, in the past week I've only gotten about 10 gems total. Another thing, I flew in the end for 30,000 blocks, and to no avail. Nothing came out of it, except for like 3 shulker boxes, not worth it for 4+ hours of searching And before you all call me a noob, check my rank: I know what I'm talking about rank doesnt matter in the slightest bit whether you are a noob or not, not sure if you were being serious |
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Post by cptchlorox on Apr 9, 2018 20:03:50 GMT
These are all valid points, although you are forgetting how some of us don't have stacks upon stacks of diamonds to spend. Heck, in the past week I've only gotten about 10 gems total. Another thing, I flew in the end for 30,000 blocks, and to no avail. Nothing came out of it, except for like 3 shulker boxes, not worth it for 4+ hours of searching And before you all call me a noob, check my rank: I know what I'm talking about Your argument against some good, valid points is that on a 30,000 block venture you wasted 4 hours of your time and had a net loss of 3 diamonds (assuming 16 fireworks are needed to travel 1600 blocks, 4d per stack of fireworks, and 5 diamonds resale value of the 3 shulker boxes you sold). You aren't going to always find unraided cities. It's a hit and miss. The time and effort that it took to make and preserve the end farms, spleef arena, and VeilStar's renovations at the end spawn was way more than 4 hours and 3 diamonds. You are basically saying that your time is significantly more important and valuable than the time and effort of the Moderators who build, kept, and maintained these builds. I don't think it would make much sense to have spent all that time rolling back all the grief in those places (especially back before WorldGuard protected the end farms) just to completely wipe them so that players can get items more easily. As Veil said, we still haven't reset the mansions and they're completed raided. Periodic resets of certain areas in the end and even periodic resets of mansions could work, but entire resets would be completely unreasonable. Also, 10 diamonds in a week is sad and 4 hours to travel 30,000 is also sad. You aren't grinding hard enough, and should probably find more productive and rewarding things to do with your time, such as mining. |
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Post by toasterD00M on Apr 9, 2018 22:03:27 GMT
I mean not my time specifically, but more the time of anyone as crazy as me XD
In any case, I think the end farms should remain untouched by this reset, if at all possible, as they are actually useful, and people put a lot of time and effort into them
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Post by Kitty on Apr 10, 2018 4:02:56 GMT
If I could find a city with an elytra, so can anyone else that is just as lazy as me. about 45 minutes in, found 2 cities(one with a ship, one without) after that got bored and left. I hate the end with a passion because of one freak accident that happened a long time ago, but forget buying an elytra for a stack of diamonds. Y'all be crazy. Go find them you lazy people.
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Post by thesavior76 on Apr 11, 2018 16:55:55 GMT
I think it would be beneficial to just reset it. However, losing the end farm would be terrible. I'm going to get on today, and time myself. I'll see just how long it takes to find one. Honestly, i don't think a reset is necessary atm. I'm mostly concerned with the absurd shop prices for elytra. Anyways, no at least for a few months a reset isn't necessary.
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Post by toasterD00M on Apr 11, 2018 21:59:41 GMT
If we do reset, we could just exclude the end farms from the reload. I'm not positive, but I think mcedit can do that
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